19:24:36 From Patty Testa to Everyone: wendy link was there, correct? 19:24:42 From Diane Locklair, Brevard Fl to Everyone: DF is all about Election Integrity 19:25:22 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "Message sent before you joined the meeting": J6'ers deserve VALIDATION. 19:25:31 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Mark Earley - Leon Co. 19:25:59 From Rich Mazur to Everyone: What specifically do we need to change for the bill? Citizenship on driver’s license? Hand count audits? Video evidence at polling places? 19:26:24 From MEREDYTH MORROW to Everyone: Replying to "Message sent before you joined the meeting": 2 more Committees in house 19:26:32 From Page Lewis to Everyone: Did Wendy speak? Is she for or against? 19:26:43 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Leah Valenti 19:26:45 From Diane Locklair, Brevard Fl to Everyone: Replying to "Message sent before you joined the meeting": Must get Elections clean 1st then can address other unconstitutional crimes 19:27:47 From Page Lewis to Everyone: Wendy Link is FSE President so I guess she was instrumental in wanting it passed. 19:27:51 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Leah Valenti - Charlotte Co is the FSE Legislative SOE for this cycle. She spoke at Gaetz' Ethics Comm mtg with Ramba. 19:28:48 From Pamela LeClair to Everyone: The purpose of the bill is appeasement. 19:29:47 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Online voting solves all of this move on 19:30:30 From Tricia Cobb to Everyone: The recording has not been posted on The Florida Channel yet since the meeting ended at 7:00pm - Look for Government Operations Subcommittee and the date April 1st - when you watch it you can copy the link and share through email, on X, or text. 19:30:54 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Allow ICE + CPB to deputize private citizens 19:31:12 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Calvin posted this last night. These are the LOBBYISTS for this bill. HB1381. 19:31:16 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Look at the POWER lined up behind HB 1381. Ballard (Susie Wiles) for Clear Ballot; Trulieve; & others. Huge dough wants this thing passed!! 19:31:53 From Patty Testa to Everyone: are there any financial connections to FSE and the vendors? 19:31:57 From Sally Baptiste to Everyone: Live updates: GOP’s Randy Fine wins Florida special election 19:32:15 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: use the national security act! 19:32:38 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: I'm trying to post it. Won't let me. 19:33:39 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: one SS# = 1 vote. DONE 19:35:31 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: WE need to deport 9000 / day to remove the infestation before the next election. U are wasting time! 19:35:37 From Rich Mazur to Everyone: So we have to be against the use of the machine, “Clear Ballot.” The “audit” is done by a machine. No human count! 19:36:28 From Debbie Miller to Everyone: Randy Fine just won 19:36:29 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: OK - here are the Lobbyists. Ballard / Clear Ballot included. This is on the FL House site now. https://www.flhouse.gov/LD/default.aspx?bn=1381&lyi=12&search=1#search 19:36:42 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "WE need to deport 9000 / day to remove the infesta...": in reality it needs to double for the mid-terms 19:36:56 From Pamela LeClair to Everyone: Nothing good EVER comes from a lobbyist! 19:37:09 From Tricia Cobb to Everyone: No foreign influence - we need to eliminate the voter registration applications in 21 languages - Deb Monks shared this with me last December 19:38:15 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: This is basically Model UN for the McDouble set. 19:38:27 From Diana Gibbons to Everyone: No machines..no Clear Ballot. All paper ballots, voter ID, citizenship verification, hand counted. This is what Trump is advocating. 19:38:53 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Nope - part of Lee County. https://www.flhouse.gov/Sections/Representatives/details.aspx?MemberId=4785&LegislativeTermId=91 19:39:06 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "No machines..no Clear Ballot. All paper ballots, v...": paper = stupid. Eat a salad 19:41:07 From Valerie Garth to Everyone: Great points Melissa 19:41:41 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Where is MI-5 from?! :D 19:43:11 From Pamela LeClair to Everyone: Meluka was happy that the bill was going to do a “manual recount” but then used the word ”automated”. So, she is confused between manual and automated. 19:43:14 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: why does that fool have her video on?! 19:43:16 From Blair Brandenburg - Weber Co. Utah to Everyone: Paper is the only way to go... chain of custody, and secure records storage for 2 elections 19:43:40 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: She is Lee County. Here's her District map. https://www.flhouse.gov/FileStores/Web/District/DistrictMaps/large/HD_78_Large.pdf 19:43:51 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "Paper is the only way to go... chain of custody, a...": paper = stupid. Eat a salad 19:44:07 From Tricia Cobb to Everyone: The Government Operations committee meeting is now posted on thefloridachannel.org. Please view!https://thefloridachannel.org/videos/4-1-25-house-government-operations-subcommittee/ 19:44:42 From Diana Gibbons to Everyone: Randy Fine projected winner for FL District 6. 19:45:04 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: The hurricanes made them transients 19:45:15 From Henry Zarb to Everyone: Replying to "No machines..no Clear Ballot. All paper ballots, v...": Eh? 19:45:41 From Mae Smith to Everyone: Replying to "No machines..no Clear Ballot. All paper ballots, v...": @Henry Zarb I think she is trolling us. 19:45:44 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "No machines..no Clear Ballot. All paper ballots, v...": deep fried stupid 19:45:49 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Watch for SB1414 to com alive again now 19:46:29 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: WE need to deport 9000 / day to remove the infestation before the next election. 19:46:45 From Henry Zarb to Everyone: Replying to "No machines..no Clear Ballot. All paper ballots, v...": And your reasoning is? 19:46:50 From Diane Locklair, Brevard Fl to Everyone: Bush cartel & Paul Ryan still influence DeSantis 19:48:44 From Henry Zarb to Everyone: Replying to "No machines..no Clear Ballot. All paper ballots, v...": Thought so. 19:48:47 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "WE need to deport 9000 / day to remove the infesta...": They ARE poising the blood of America! They are Uneducated, economic refugees 19:48:49 From Deb Monks to Everyone: Replying to "Message sent before you joined the meeting": Next it goes to the Fiscal committee. Then State Affairs. Then it goes to a floor vote. 19:48:55 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Jenna Persons-Mulicka is an attorney. 19:50:03 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: hey whatever happened to proving the election results in 2020 were rigged or was this a fake? 19:50:19 From Blair Brandenburg - Weber Co. Utah to Everyone: We took 4 Legislative District Chairs to the Utah Capital to fight weakening Voter ID, and it made the news back at the County... You have the opportunity to call them out in person. Highly suggest Capital Visit! 19:51:22 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: get a constitional AMENDMENT. 19:51:36 From Henry Zarb to Everyone: It must surely be clear to everyone by now that we cannot trust any one of these Tallahassee jokers any further than we can throw them, no matter how nice and friendly to us they may seem to be. They are beholden to the party machine, not to any of us. 19:51:43 From Tricia Cobb to Everyone: Replying to "Jenna Persons-Mulicka is an attorney.": So is Ashley Gantt, thus they were back and forth at this subcommittee meeting 19:52:25 From Matt Nellans to Everyone: We’re just going to have to get elected to the State House and Senate. 19:52:41 From Blair Brandenburg - Weber Co. Utah to Everyone: Our most effective people do Facebook Live sessions from the Capital. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. 19:53:01 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: What people are doing is it essentially the equivalent of trying to remove pee from the pool (state by state). Get a constitutional amendment which essentially neutralizes the Pee in the pool 19:54:28 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: What you people are doing is it essentially the equivalent of trying to remove pee from the pool (state by state). Get a constitutional amendment which essentially neutralizes the Pee in the pool 19:55:03 From Fireflies.ai Notetaker Henry to Everyone: The meeting schedule is about to end. Action Items for this meeting: - Continue to keep contact with the person mentioned in the meeting. @Melissa King - Reignite communication link with Will Robinson Committee and ensure contact is maintained. @Melissa King - Start a campaign about the cost of the bill as it is now. @Melissa King - Gather and compile the financial data from Deb Monks' FOIA requests. @Unassigned - Get contact information for Dave Schaffel and share it with Raj Doraisamy. @Cathi Chamberlain - Inform stakeholders about the outcome of the town hall meeting and the viewership statistics. @Raj Doraisamy 19:55:30 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: What you people are doing is essentially the equivalent of trying to remove pee from the pool (state by state). Get a constitutional amendment which essentially neutralizes the Pee in the pool 19:55:44 From elaine ber to Everyone: Replying to "It must surely be clear to everyone by now that we...": agreed (though important to get testimony on the record). But fact that FSE is behind machines is a giant red flag. Think focus should be to demand paper ballots (cheaper and safer) and allows for audits. Not trying to refine or perfect Clear Ballot, it's a trojan horse!! 19:58:08 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "It must surely be clear to everyone by now that we...": Paper = stupid. Why else are wire transfers so popular 20:00:10 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "It must surely be clear to everyone by now that we...": FUCK. U people need to smart up or your Democracy will end! 20:00:27 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Why would we not think that Albert Sensors are imbedded in the Clear Ballot Audit systems? I am a HARD NO on Clear Ballot. It normalizes illegal ballots. 20:01:27 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "It must surely be clear to everyone by now that we...": stop watching Fox and watch RT and TYT 20:03:19 From Kuka Berra to Everyone: Replying to "It must surely be clear to everyone by now that we...": did you get tired of keying Teslas & burning charging stations so decided to infiltrate zoom meetings?? 20:04:28 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "It must surely be clear to everyone by now that we...": Fuck you're dumb. I don't do that, I'm a Lib - like MUSK 20:04:50 From Diana Gibbons to Everyone: Replying to "Why would we not think that Albert Sensors are imb...": Agreed. Election results should never be determined by a machine. The results of an election lies in the ballots themselves that, we, the people, used to vote. 20:04:52 From Sally P - Manatee to Raj Doraisamy (direct message): Pls check Liz Thissen. Horrible comments. Not sure she is one of us? 20:05:17 From Liz Thissen to Everyone: Replying to "It must surely be clear to everyone by now that we...": Eat a salad and open your mind 20:06:03 From Rich Mazur to Everyone: I hope you will get out your plan out. 20:06:18 From Kris Jurski to Everyone: Liz has left the chat... 20:06:27 From Mae Smith to Everyone: Replying to "It must surely be clear to everyone by now that we...": @Kuka Berra Thank you. She is a vulgar troll. 20:08:14 From Deb Monks to Raj Doraisamy (direct message): Hi Deb, I think Liz Thissen may be a troll. 20:13:13 From Bob Kufert - Bay FL to Everyone: Replying to "Why would we not think that Albert Sensors are imb...": Sally, while Clear Ballot audit should not be mandated, it does count paper ballots and that count is reconciled to the tabulator count prior to certification. That would be a major improvement of deciding election based on tabulator count. I know for certain the Albert Sensors are installed in the tabulators. To the best of my knowledge, they are not in the Clear Ballot Audit equipment. Hard no in Clear Ballot audit should only be on mandating it to the exclusion of hand counts. 20:15:07 From Pamela LeClair to Everyone: Cool Lego Shirt, John. 20:15:11 From Sally Baptiste to Everyone: This mail-in ballots stuff needs to be explained. 20:15:22 From Diane Locklair, Brevard Fl to Everyone: So must push for bill that reverts to pre Covid Absentee ballot laws 20:15:34 From Sally Baptiste to Everyone: How could that be allowed - overlooked??? 20:15:50 From Raj Doraisamy to Everyone: kris play this video https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88074184788?pwd=eWpMVXl5WSttN3RkdW15TkVXTXM4Zz09 20:15:54 From Raj Doraisamy to Everyone: startat 5 minutes 20:16:02 From Raj Doraisamy to Everyone: ok proceed john 20:18:13 From Raj Doraisamy to Everyone: Replying to "Why would we not think that Albert Sensors are imb...": @Bob Kufert - Bay FL Bob - I believe the way 1381 is written can allow the digitaloutput from machine 1 to be electronically used in machine 2 (clear ballot). There is no direction that Clear ballot must be fed the paper ballots. 20:20:59 From Bob Kufert - Bay FL to Everyone: Replying to "Why would we not think that Albert Sensors are imb...": Raj, Clear Ballot Audit counts paper ballots. That is what the equipment does. It digitally scans them as they are counted. That only becomes bad when recounts, which are being renamed to reviews, use the images rather than the paper ballots. 20:21:04 From Kuka Berra to Everyone: Replying to "So must push for bill that reverts to pre Covid Ab...": DJT may have left VBM in election integrity bill inadvertently. But it's not irredeemable and can be reversed with either amending his EO, and most importantly, EACH STATE IS IN CHARGE OF THEIR ELECTIONS. We need to heavily LOBBY each of the 67 SOE's demanding of them to rescind VBM after covid, and of course bombard our state legislators with calls/emails, etc. 20:22:12 From Page Lewis to Everyone: Send them video email at least. 20:24:41 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Re: Trump's 3.25.25 EO - this is Capt K - Seth Keshel's assessment on this order. VBM is not one of the points https://open.substack.com/pub/skeshel/p/a-comprehensive-breakdown-of-president?r=2ltjwy&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false 20:26:33 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Clear Ballot SCANS the paper ballots. I have attended 3 large counties L&A's and that's what they certified...but one county was disallowed (mine) because there was no Security Protocol sent to the SOS as required by FSS. 20:30:32 From Bob Kufert - Bay FL to Everyone: Replying to "Why would we not think that Albert Sensors are imb...": If you've seen the equipment, it is a high speed paper ballot counter. The whole purpose is to count the ballots independent of the tabulators. Deb, if you are concerned about it not being independent or it not counting paper ballots, then push for that languade along with the other fixes. I've seen it running and that isn't a concern for me. 20:32:46 From John Goodman to Everyone: John Goodman Comments Video Series @johngoo77697793 Including middle of the night pictures off CNN from the 2020 election 20:33:08 From Henry Zarb to Everyone: How many times in the last few years have we heard the kind of thing John has just reported? I despair. Really. 20:33:53 From Henry Zarb to Everyone: The SoEs are turkeys voting for Thanksgiving, it seems to me. 20:34:21 From Raj Doraisamy to Everyone: i cant unmute 20:38:17 From Bob Kufert - Bay FL to Everyone: Kris makes a good point that post certification should continue to be allowed and should involve counting of paper ballots. But, using his terminology, at the end of the day, pre-certification reconciliation is much more important than post certification. Bottom line is we need pre-cert independent count reconciliation so either the 1381 deficiencies must be fixed or that 'gem' needs to be added to the bills we very much prefer. 20:38:34 From Jim Powers to Everyone: A lot of important things have been said tonight, which is good. But before we leave tonight's call, can we consolidate a recommended list of action items to get the best possible result with our FL legislators during this session? 20:41:06 From Kuka Berra to Everyone: Replying to "The SoEs are turkeys voting for Thanksgiving, it s...": The SOE's are controlled by the FSE, which is controlled by the LOBBYISTS (Ramba's biggest client is FL legislature). So RAMBA controls FSE, and Evan Power-a lobbyist from Ramba- is chair of RPOF. This incestuous pool reflects in the horrific legislation or lack thereof and likewise reflects the will for change/or lack thereof of existing laws (which keep these ossified RINOs in office) 20:42:18 From Cathi Chamberlain to Everyone: The Government Operations committee meeting is now posted on thefloridachannel.org. Please view!https://thefloridachannel.org/videos/4-1-25-house-government-operations-subcommittee/ 20:43:07 From Diane Locklair, Brevard Fl to Everyone: Replying to "The SoEs are turkeys voting for Thanksgiving, it s...": Pray for God to Breakthrough the entrenchment of EVIL 20:44:39 From Deb Monks to Everyone: Replying to "Kris makes a good point that post certification sh...": Absolutely. Our bill has it pre-certification. We have a manual cross check on first day of early voting, election day, and daily at the VBM counting center. 20:45:18 From Deb Monks to Everyone: Replying to "Kris makes a good point that post certification sh...": The we have an expanded manual audit before certification 20:48:06 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: They are learning to take us seriously. 20:49:35 From Melissa King to Everyone: is anyone on this call from Lee County? 20:52:20 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: 1381 is going here next. https://www.flhouse.gov/Sections/Committees/committeesdetail.aspx?SessionId=105&CommitteeId=3284 20:53:07 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Jason Shaof 20:53:51 From Kuka Berra to Everyone: Replying to "They are learning to take us seriously.": precisely! since Tally is a top down model, the only hope or way to hopefully bring about change is from the bottom up. So great that they are taking DF et al seriously shows that 'we the people' out there they can't be ignored, and frankly being a constant thorn in their side and making lots of noise is critical to keep the heat on the 20:54:54 From Fireflies.ai Notetaker Henry to Everyone: Attention: Recording will stop in 2 minutes. You can re-invite to continue recording. 20:55:16 From Valerie Garth to Everyone: Danny Alvarez is in mine 20:56:33 From Bob Kufert - Bay FL to Everyone: Gotta go - dinner getting cold Good night, folks! 20:56:34 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Our new guy Conerly is on both. He is a Simwins client that does not vote for his People 20:57:54 From Sally P - Manatee to Everyone: Thank you! Especially you all that made the trip today 20:59:05 From Valerie Garth to Everyone: Thank you Raj